LXX FXXX Hard to "work together" when the final objectives for each [Party] are polar opposites. One is based on what you received is based on production, the other based solely on your need. The former is dependent upon the latter, why kill the goose? Socialist ideas do nothing to create more but only justify why others should receive more of what they don't themselves produce. Brian Wilson I dunno about "polar opposites". All governments and - isms exist to dominate, enslave and force "citizens" into some form of pre-determined existence solely to serve the State. However, accomplished economically is academic. In the end, you pay and obey. That ain't Freedom.